Foros para vendedores
Iniciar sesión
Iniciar sesión
imgIniciar sesión
imgIniciar sesión
user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Lost SFP due to UPS issues

We have lost our SFP twice now due to UPS getting our orders to customers late. We are now in the trial period and going to FAIL because of UPS issues as well.

It is beyond our control but Amazon does not care. We show them tracking. We show them we gave it to UPS on time and then UPS didn't get to customer on time for different reasons, such as mechanical issues, going to wrong location etc...

The only response we get from Amazon is that "It is the responsibility of the Seller to partner with a reliable carrier." And to work with our UPS rep to fix the issue. We use UPS!!! Who is more reliable than that?! We also have worked with our rep and got late pickups but that is not the issue. The issue are mechanical or other things that a rep has no control over!!!

We are busy in the Summer and this has crushed sales. Amazon needs to stop holding us accountable for things that our outside our control or just admit they are trying to get rid of SFP with these new impossible rules.

720 visualizaciones
36 respuestas
Etiquetas:Gestionado por el vendedor, Prime, Red logística del vendedor, UPS
100
Responder
user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Lost SFP due to UPS issues

We have lost our SFP twice now due to UPS getting our orders to customers late. We are now in the trial period and going to FAIL because of UPS issues as well.

It is beyond our control but Amazon does not care. We show them tracking. We show them we gave it to UPS on time and then UPS didn't get to customer on time for different reasons, such as mechanical issues, going to wrong location etc...

The only response we get from Amazon is that "It is the responsibility of the Seller to partner with a reliable carrier." And to work with our UPS rep to fix the issue. We use UPS!!! Who is more reliable than that?! We also have worked with our rep and got late pickups but that is not the issue. The issue are mechanical or other things that a rep has no control over!!!

We are busy in the Summer and this has crushed sales. Amazon needs to stop holding us accountable for things that our outside our control or just admit they are trying to get rid of SFP with these new impossible rules.

Etiquetas:Gestionado por el vendedor, Prime, Red logística del vendedor, UPS
100
720 visualizaciones
36 respuestas
Responder
36 respuestas
user profile
KJ_Amazon
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Hello @Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj. Thank you for that feedback about Seller-Fulfilled Prime performance requirements.

The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied, and which are monitored and enforced weekly against minimum performance thresholds

Sellers can find details here about Seller Fulfilled Prime performance requirements, as well as at the link: Maintain enrollment in Seller Fulfilled Prime.

KJ_Amazon

131
user profile
Seller_roNdLQpqbVoOH
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

@KJ_Amazon That was not a helpful response.

Ver publicación

True. But since mods have extremely limited power, all they can do is quote policy. Policy that you have just said is grossly unfair and is hitting you pretty hard. Ninety-nine percent of seller issues cannot be solved by mods.

user profile
KJ_Amazon
I share all seller feedback about the program with our partner team.
Ver publicación

And this, as we all know, is the same as saying: I will file your feedback where no one will ever find it. "Partner teams" have no interest in seller input.

But wouldn't it be refreshing to hear, just once, from a mod: I'm sorry, but I do not make these ridiculous policies and have no power to change them. If I didn't work here, and need the paycheck, I'd stay as far away from Amazon as I could.

(Blink twice if you agree, KJ.)

90
user profile
Seller_OAAf0BtMbrP5Y
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

I do not use SFP anymore but when we did if we used Amazon Buy Shipping it would not count against us.

20
user profile
Seller_3QIhzNaiqbTwC
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

sure, the current rules for sfp are ridiculous. We have been selling sfp for several years now, and we can say that, if you get in you can survive within those rules. It is not easy though. First you need to use both FedEx and UPS. Stay away from usps. We currently at about 2/3 FedEx and 1/3 ups, but at times those numbers have been reversed or it has been closer to 50/50. Using both helps minimize your risk of one having the kind of issues you describe on a certain day. Next, you need to have substantial volume in Sfp. We do 300 to 400 Sfp orders a week. The more volume, the less risk of one bad day by a carrier putting you below your minimum metrics. Finally, you need to anticipate weather issues. If there is bad weather in your area, or in the area of your carrier’s main hubs- you need to tun off your prime offers the day before the weather is anticipated. Yes, it is difficult to know, and yes it will cost you sales, but you have to do it if there is any doubt.

Even doing all that we have had 3 or 4 random weeks where we fell below minimum standards since last October, but we have managed to stay active in the program.

50
user profile
Seller_zONeO5hiTh1px
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon isn't the only marketplace where you can sell your items, and some of them understand that the carrier gets delayed from time-to-time and doesn't penalize the seller for the carrier's issues. Completely absurd.

40
user profile
Seller_7d8GzQkY0SiCN
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

the new SFP metrics were created for all of us to fail - amazon can't even meet the requirements they implement on us. I buy a lot from Amazon and they would fail miserably at trying to meet the criteria they expect of us.

30
user profile
Seller_CA70ZtA5VBcto
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon and eBay support give you scripted responses that are disrespectful to small business owners who have at least half a brain that functions. You would need one to be successful in the business world. Been around for years? Have done millions in sales? Doesn't matter, you are treated no different than a new Joe Shmoe seller who struggles and is part of the high % of small business to fail within their first year.

Often times these responses make you feel like you're a child being talked down to. Hey don't hit, it's not nice! Your explained how a stat and feature works as if comprehension skills is not part of your capability and you need guidance like a leashed child at a theme park.

Unlike eBay, which I give props too for this, Amazon doesn't have a minimum threshold count for small business either, going off percentages. Sell 500 things a month selling at $80 average ticket price, have one UPS truck break down with 30 items in it, oof you're in big trouble now for SFP on time delivery. You'll be treated the same as ABC seller who sells 10,000 items at $12 average ticket item. That UPS truck breakdown for them, isn't going to barely make a dent. It's basic math.

I find it odd as well because Amazon isn't too bright and has pushed away billions in profit through suspensions. They have defeated the seller who was growing and in 5 years would of built up to 5 million annually in sales. These same types of business' that fueled Amazon's business growth. Without them, Amazon would of just been a failed book selling company lol. No seriously, you think Amazon's 30 billion net profit last year is actually good? No, it's low. If they actually dedicated support to sellers and had basic logic of growth and numbers, I don't see why they couldn't triple that to 90 billion in net profit. Let's say over the past decade they pushed away 2,000,000 sellers, 200,000 sellers per year. Each seller doing, let's say 300,000 a year. 2,000,000 x 300,000 = 600,000,000,000 in sales x (I'm going to just use our category fee rate) 12% = 72,000,000,000. Whoa, that's 72 billion in fees. How many dedicated and knowledgable support reps for 2,000,000 sellers would it take? How about 10,000? 1 rep per 200 sellers. Pay them 80,000 per year, US reps. That's on 800,000,000 plus benefits, etc. You think 72 billion covers it? lol Again, I really don't think people understand just how much money potential this company throws away from being bad at managing 3rd party sellers. Some dinkus or several at Amazon thinks they 're smart by outsourcing support, using AI bots to respond and treating sellers this way to save millions, while throwing away billions.

Anyways, off to work I go dealing with returns marked as not as described item and ASIN's , pumping up our NX or whatever it is % because buyers wanted free return as they bought the wrong part. I got 15" wheels and these hubcaps don't fit. Yeah, that's why they say 16" all over the page. Here's one that's funny as a recent one. You sent me red and I ordered chrome. Red is the tape backing and chrome is under the white protective layer that is labeled. Not to mention thr scammers lately who steal product and swap out junk for it. Amazon will explain to us how voice of the customer is our fault, even though I find very small % that actually is our fault SMH

10
user profile
Seller_xbNbb8BNtssv3
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We go through the same issues. Everything done correctly and shipped on-time on our end. But halfway through transit UPS/FedEx adds on tracking "Carrier Delay, Delivery Delayed Until Tomorrow" and yet, we still suffer for that. Amazon themselves would not be able to live up to the metrics, but they don't have to abide by them.

10
user profile
Seller_r0fehDyVRb8xg
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We exited SFP years ago as the metrics are impossible to maintain. We never looked back. As you stated, it’s impossible to influence the internal workings of billion-dollar carriers such as Fedex and UPS. Both of which are way more reliable than Amazon BTW. Amazon expects you to chastise the gigantic carrier and create a plan of action. Its not possible to maintain SFP long term because of this. This is one of many metrics that sellers cannot control. The only way to maintain prime is to use FBA. This is one of many monopolistic actions and why Amazon has caught the attention of the FTC. Amazon is both a marketplace facilitator and seller. As a seller its not held to the same standards as private sellers.

Amazon Rep: “The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied”

Real Life Translation “The SFP program does strict performance requirements that must be maintained. These same standards are not applied to us, Amazon as a seller. You must pay us to house and ship your products if you want the Prime badge”

Amazon FBA is not held to the same standard. If FBA was held to the same standard Amazon would lose prime eligibility in minutes. Imagine Amazon removing its own prime badge! Most sellers would abandon FBA.

If you need to maintain Prime you can use FBA. We list all with free 2-day shipping. Same service without the prime badge. We sleep well knowing our free 2-day non-prime service will always outperform ANY Amazon warehouse.

20
Sigue esta conversación para recibir notificaciones cuando haya nueva actividad
user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Lost SFP due to UPS issues

We have lost our SFP twice now due to UPS getting our orders to customers late. We are now in the trial period and going to FAIL because of UPS issues as well.

It is beyond our control but Amazon does not care. We show them tracking. We show them we gave it to UPS on time and then UPS didn't get to customer on time for different reasons, such as mechanical issues, going to wrong location etc...

The only response we get from Amazon is that "It is the responsibility of the Seller to partner with a reliable carrier." And to work with our UPS rep to fix the issue. We use UPS!!! Who is more reliable than that?! We also have worked with our rep and got late pickups but that is not the issue. The issue are mechanical or other things that a rep has no control over!!!

We are busy in the Summer and this has crushed sales. Amazon needs to stop holding us accountable for things that our outside our control or just admit they are trying to get rid of SFP with these new impossible rules.

720 visualizaciones
36 respuestas
Etiquetas:Gestionado por el vendedor, Prime, Red logística del vendedor, UPS
100
Responder
user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Lost SFP due to UPS issues

We have lost our SFP twice now due to UPS getting our orders to customers late. We are now in the trial period and going to FAIL because of UPS issues as well.

It is beyond our control but Amazon does not care. We show them tracking. We show them we gave it to UPS on time and then UPS didn't get to customer on time for different reasons, such as mechanical issues, going to wrong location etc...

The only response we get from Amazon is that "It is the responsibility of the Seller to partner with a reliable carrier." And to work with our UPS rep to fix the issue. We use UPS!!! Who is more reliable than that?! We also have worked with our rep and got late pickups but that is not the issue. The issue are mechanical or other things that a rep has no control over!!!

We are busy in the Summer and this has crushed sales. Amazon needs to stop holding us accountable for things that our outside our control or just admit they are trying to get rid of SFP with these new impossible rules.

Etiquetas:Gestionado por el vendedor, Prime, Red logística del vendedor, UPS
100
720 visualizaciones
36 respuestas
Responder
user profile

Lost SFP due to UPS issues

por parte de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We have lost our SFP twice now due to UPS getting our orders to customers late. We are now in the trial period and going to FAIL because of UPS issues as well.

It is beyond our control but Amazon does not care. We show them tracking. We show them we gave it to UPS on time and then UPS didn't get to customer on time for different reasons, such as mechanical issues, going to wrong location etc...

The only response we get from Amazon is that "It is the responsibility of the Seller to partner with a reliable carrier." And to work with our UPS rep to fix the issue. We use UPS!!! Who is more reliable than that?! We also have worked with our rep and got late pickups but that is not the issue. The issue are mechanical or other things that a rep has no control over!!!

We are busy in the Summer and this has crushed sales. Amazon needs to stop holding us accountable for things that our outside our control or just admit they are trying to get rid of SFP with these new impossible rules.

Etiquetas:Gestionado por el vendedor, Prime, Red logística del vendedor, UPS
100
720 visualizaciones
36 respuestas
Responder
36 respuestas
36 respuestas
Filtros rápidos
Ordenar por
user profile
KJ_Amazon
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Hello @Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj. Thank you for that feedback about Seller-Fulfilled Prime performance requirements.

The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied, and which are monitored and enforced weekly against minimum performance thresholds

Sellers can find details here about Seller Fulfilled Prime performance requirements, as well as at the link: Maintain enrollment in Seller Fulfilled Prime.

KJ_Amazon

131
user profile
Seller_roNdLQpqbVoOH
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

@KJ_Amazon That was not a helpful response.

Ver publicación

True. But since mods have extremely limited power, all they can do is quote policy. Policy that you have just said is grossly unfair and is hitting you pretty hard. Ninety-nine percent of seller issues cannot be solved by mods.

user profile
KJ_Amazon
I share all seller feedback about the program with our partner team.
Ver publicación

And this, as we all know, is the same as saying: I will file your feedback where no one will ever find it. "Partner teams" have no interest in seller input.

But wouldn't it be refreshing to hear, just once, from a mod: I'm sorry, but I do not make these ridiculous policies and have no power to change them. If I didn't work here, and need the paycheck, I'd stay as far away from Amazon as I could.

(Blink twice if you agree, KJ.)

90
user profile
Seller_OAAf0BtMbrP5Y
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

I do not use SFP anymore but when we did if we used Amazon Buy Shipping it would not count against us.

20
user profile
Seller_3QIhzNaiqbTwC
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

sure, the current rules for sfp are ridiculous. We have been selling sfp for several years now, and we can say that, if you get in you can survive within those rules. It is not easy though. First you need to use both FedEx and UPS. Stay away from usps. We currently at about 2/3 FedEx and 1/3 ups, but at times those numbers have been reversed or it has been closer to 50/50. Using both helps minimize your risk of one having the kind of issues you describe on a certain day. Next, you need to have substantial volume in Sfp. We do 300 to 400 Sfp orders a week. The more volume, the less risk of one bad day by a carrier putting you below your minimum metrics. Finally, you need to anticipate weather issues. If there is bad weather in your area, or in the area of your carrier’s main hubs- you need to tun off your prime offers the day before the weather is anticipated. Yes, it is difficult to know, and yes it will cost you sales, but you have to do it if there is any doubt.

Even doing all that we have had 3 or 4 random weeks where we fell below minimum standards since last October, but we have managed to stay active in the program.

50
user profile
Seller_zONeO5hiTh1px
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon isn't the only marketplace where you can sell your items, and some of them understand that the carrier gets delayed from time-to-time and doesn't penalize the seller for the carrier's issues. Completely absurd.

40
user profile
Seller_7d8GzQkY0SiCN
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

the new SFP metrics were created for all of us to fail - amazon can't even meet the requirements they implement on us. I buy a lot from Amazon and they would fail miserably at trying to meet the criteria they expect of us.

30
user profile
Seller_CA70ZtA5VBcto
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon and eBay support give you scripted responses that are disrespectful to small business owners who have at least half a brain that functions. You would need one to be successful in the business world. Been around for years? Have done millions in sales? Doesn't matter, you are treated no different than a new Joe Shmoe seller who struggles and is part of the high % of small business to fail within their first year.

Often times these responses make you feel like you're a child being talked down to. Hey don't hit, it's not nice! Your explained how a stat and feature works as if comprehension skills is not part of your capability and you need guidance like a leashed child at a theme park.

Unlike eBay, which I give props too for this, Amazon doesn't have a minimum threshold count for small business either, going off percentages. Sell 500 things a month selling at $80 average ticket price, have one UPS truck break down with 30 items in it, oof you're in big trouble now for SFP on time delivery. You'll be treated the same as ABC seller who sells 10,000 items at $12 average ticket item. That UPS truck breakdown for them, isn't going to barely make a dent. It's basic math.

I find it odd as well because Amazon isn't too bright and has pushed away billions in profit through suspensions. They have defeated the seller who was growing and in 5 years would of built up to 5 million annually in sales. These same types of business' that fueled Amazon's business growth. Without them, Amazon would of just been a failed book selling company lol. No seriously, you think Amazon's 30 billion net profit last year is actually good? No, it's low. If they actually dedicated support to sellers and had basic logic of growth and numbers, I don't see why they couldn't triple that to 90 billion in net profit. Let's say over the past decade they pushed away 2,000,000 sellers, 200,000 sellers per year. Each seller doing, let's say 300,000 a year. 2,000,000 x 300,000 = 600,000,000,000 in sales x (I'm going to just use our category fee rate) 12% = 72,000,000,000. Whoa, that's 72 billion in fees. How many dedicated and knowledgable support reps for 2,000,000 sellers would it take? How about 10,000? 1 rep per 200 sellers. Pay them 80,000 per year, US reps. That's on 800,000,000 plus benefits, etc. You think 72 billion covers it? lol Again, I really don't think people understand just how much money potential this company throws away from being bad at managing 3rd party sellers. Some dinkus or several at Amazon thinks they 're smart by outsourcing support, using AI bots to respond and treating sellers this way to save millions, while throwing away billions.

Anyways, off to work I go dealing with returns marked as not as described item and ASIN's , pumping up our NX or whatever it is % because buyers wanted free return as they bought the wrong part. I got 15" wheels and these hubcaps don't fit. Yeah, that's why they say 16" all over the page. Here's one that's funny as a recent one. You sent me red and I ordered chrome. Red is the tape backing and chrome is under the white protective layer that is labeled. Not to mention thr scammers lately who steal product and swap out junk for it. Amazon will explain to us how voice of the customer is our fault, even though I find very small % that actually is our fault SMH

10
user profile
Seller_xbNbb8BNtssv3
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We go through the same issues. Everything done correctly and shipped on-time on our end. But halfway through transit UPS/FedEx adds on tracking "Carrier Delay, Delivery Delayed Until Tomorrow" and yet, we still suffer for that. Amazon themselves would not be able to live up to the metrics, but they don't have to abide by them.

10
user profile
Seller_r0fehDyVRb8xg
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We exited SFP years ago as the metrics are impossible to maintain. We never looked back. As you stated, it’s impossible to influence the internal workings of billion-dollar carriers such as Fedex and UPS. Both of which are way more reliable than Amazon BTW. Amazon expects you to chastise the gigantic carrier and create a plan of action. Its not possible to maintain SFP long term because of this. This is one of many metrics that sellers cannot control. The only way to maintain prime is to use FBA. This is one of many monopolistic actions and why Amazon has caught the attention of the FTC. Amazon is both a marketplace facilitator and seller. As a seller its not held to the same standards as private sellers.

Amazon Rep: “The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied”

Real Life Translation “The SFP program does strict performance requirements that must be maintained. These same standards are not applied to us, Amazon as a seller. You must pay us to house and ship your products if you want the Prime badge”

Amazon FBA is not held to the same standard. If FBA was held to the same standard Amazon would lose prime eligibility in minutes. Imagine Amazon removing its own prime badge! Most sellers would abandon FBA.

If you need to maintain Prime you can use FBA. We list all with free 2-day shipping. Same service without the prime badge. We sleep well knowing our free 2-day non-prime service will always outperform ANY Amazon warehouse.

20
Sigue esta conversación para recibir notificaciones cuando haya nueva actividad
user profile
KJ_Amazon
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Hello @Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj. Thank you for that feedback about Seller-Fulfilled Prime performance requirements.

The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied, and which are monitored and enforced weekly against minimum performance thresholds

Sellers can find details here about Seller Fulfilled Prime performance requirements, as well as at the link: Maintain enrollment in Seller Fulfilled Prime.

KJ_Amazon

131
user profile
KJ_Amazon
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Hello @Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj. Thank you for that feedback about Seller-Fulfilled Prime performance requirements.

The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied, and which are monitored and enforced weekly against minimum performance thresholds

Sellers can find details here about Seller Fulfilled Prime performance requirements, as well as at the link: Maintain enrollment in Seller Fulfilled Prime.

KJ_Amazon

131
Responder
user profile
Seller_roNdLQpqbVoOH
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

@KJ_Amazon That was not a helpful response.

Ver publicación

True. But since mods have extremely limited power, all they can do is quote policy. Policy that you have just said is grossly unfair and is hitting you pretty hard. Ninety-nine percent of seller issues cannot be solved by mods.

user profile
KJ_Amazon
I share all seller feedback about the program with our partner team.
Ver publicación

And this, as we all know, is the same as saying: I will file your feedback where no one will ever find it. "Partner teams" have no interest in seller input.

But wouldn't it be refreshing to hear, just once, from a mod: I'm sorry, but I do not make these ridiculous policies and have no power to change them. If I didn't work here, and need the paycheck, I'd stay as far away from Amazon as I could.

(Blink twice if you agree, KJ.)

90
user profile
Seller_roNdLQpqbVoOH
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

user profile
Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

@KJ_Amazon That was not a helpful response.

Ver publicación

True. But since mods have extremely limited power, all they can do is quote policy. Policy that you have just said is grossly unfair and is hitting you pretty hard. Ninety-nine percent of seller issues cannot be solved by mods.

user profile
KJ_Amazon
I share all seller feedback about the program with our partner team.
Ver publicación

And this, as we all know, is the same as saying: I will file your feedback where no one will ever find it. "Partner teams" have no interest in seller input.

But wouldn't it be refreshing to hear, just once, from a mod: I'm sorry, but I do not make these ridiculous policies and have no power to change them. If I didn't work here, and need the paycheck, I'd stay as far away from Amazon as I could.

(Blink twice if you agree, KJ.)

90
Responder
user profile
Seller_OAAf0BtMbrP5Y
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

I do not use SFP anymore but when we did if we used Amazon Buy Shipping it would not count against us.

20
user profile
Seller_OAAf0BtMbrP5Y
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

I do not use SFP anymore but when we did if we used Amazon Buy Shipping it would not count against us.

20
Responder
user profile
Seller_3QIhzNaiqbTwC
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

sure, the current rules for sfp are ridiculous. We have been selling sfp for several years now, and we can say that, if you get in you can survive within those rules. It is not easy though. First you need to use both FedEx and UPS. Stay away from usps. We currently at about 2/3 FedEx and 1/3 ups, but at times those numbers have been reversed or it has been closer to 50/50. Using both helps minimize your risk of one having the kind of issues you describe on a certain day. Next, you need to have substantial volume in Sfp. We do 300 to 400 Sfp orders a week. The more volume, the less risk of one bad day by a carrier putting you below your minimum metrics. Finally, you need to anticipate weather issues. If there is bad weather in your area, or in the area of your carrier’s main hubs- you need to tun off your prime offers the day before the weather is anticipated. Yes, it is difficult to know, and yes it will cost you sales, but you have to do it if there is any doubt.

Even doing all that we have had 3 or 4 random weeks where we fell below minimum standards since last October, but we have managed to stay active in the program.

50
user profile
Seller_3QIhzNaiqbTwC
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

sure, the current rules for sfp are ridiculous. We have been selling sfp for several years now, and we can say that, if you get in you can survive within those rules. It is not easy though. First you need to use both FedEx and UPS. Stay away from usps. We currently at about 2/3 FedEx and 1/3 ups, but at times those numbers have been reversed or it has been closer to 50/50. Using both helps minimize your risk of one having the kind of issues you describe on a certain day. Next, you need to have substantial volume in Sfp. We do 300 to 400 Sfp orders a week. The more volume, the less risk of one bad day by a carrier putting you below your minimum metrics. Finally, you need to anticipate weather issues. If there is bad weather in your area, or in the area of your carrier’s main hubs- you need to tun off your prime offers the day before the weather is anticipated. Yes, it is difficult to know, and yes it will cost you sales, but you have to do it if there is any doubt.

Even doing all that we have had 3 or 4 random weeks where we fell below minimum standards since last October, but we have managed to stay active in the program.

50
Responder
user profile
Seller_zONeO5hiTh1px
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon isn't the only marketplace where you can sell your items, and some of them understand that the carrier gets delayed from time-to-time and doesn't penalize the seller for the carrier's issues. Completely absurd.

40
user profile
Seller_zONeO5hiTh1px
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon isn't the only marketplace where you can sell your items, and some of them understand that the carrier gets delayed from time-to-time and doesn't penalize the seller for the carrier's issues. Completely absurd.

40
Responder
user profile
Seller_7d8GzQkY0SiCN
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

the new SFP metrics were created for all of us to fail - amazon can't even meet the requirements they implement on us. I buy a lot from Amazon and they would fail miserably at trying to meet the criteria they expect of us.

30
user profile
Seller_7d8GzQkY0SiCN
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

the new SFP metrics were created for all of us to fail - amazon can't even meet the requirements they implement on us. I buy a lot from Amazon and they would fail miserably at trying to meet the criteria they expect of us.

30
Responder
user profile
Seller_CA70ZtA5VBcto
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon and eBay support give you scripted responses that are disrespectful to small business owners who have at least half a brain that functions. You would need one to be successful in the business world. Been around for years? Have done millions in sales? Doesn't matter, you are treated no different than a new Joe Shmoe seller who struggles and is part of the high % of small business to fail within their first year.

Often times these responses make you feel like you're a child being talked down to. Hey don't hit, it's not nice! Your explained how a stat and feature works as if comprehension skills is not part of your capability and you need guidance like a leashed child at a theme park.

Unlike eBay, which I give props too for this, Amazon doesn't have a minimum threshold count for small business either, going off percentages. Sell 500 things a month selling at $80 average ticket price, have one UPS truck break down with 30 items in it, oof you're in big trouble now for SFP on time delivery. You'll be treated the same as ABC seller who sells 10,000 items at $12 average ticket item. That UPS truck breakdown for them, isn't going to barely make a dent. It's basic math.

I find it odd as well because Amazon isn't too bright and has pushed away billions in profit through suspensions. They have defeated the seller who was growing and in 5 years would of built up to 5 million annually in sales. These same types of business' that fueled Amazon's business growth. Without them, Amazon would of just been a failed book selling company lol. No seriously, you think Amazon's 30 billion net profit last year is actually good? No, it's low. If they actually dedicated support to sellers and had basic logic of growth and numbers, I don't see why they couldn't triple that to 90 billion in net profit. Let's say over the past decade they pushed away 2,000,000 sellers, 200,000 sellers per year. Each seller doing, let's say 300,000 a year. 2,000,000 x 300,000 = 600,000,000,000 in sales x (I'm going to just use our category fee rate) 12% = 72,000,000,000. Whoa, that's 72 billion in fees. How many dedicated and knowledgable support reps for 2,000,000 sellers would it take? How about 10,000? 1 rep per 200 sellers. Pay them 80,000 per year, US reps. That's on 800,000,000 plus benefits, etc. You think 72 billion covers it? lol Again, I really don't think people understand just how much money potential this company throws away from being bad at managing 3rd party sellers. Some dinkus or several at Amazon thinks they 're smart by outsourcing support, using AI bots to respond and treating sellers this way to save millions, while throwing away billions.

Anyways, off to work I go dealing with returns marked as not as described item and ASIN's , pumping up our NX or whatever it is % because buyers wanted free return as they bought the wrong part. I got 15" wheels and these hubcaps don't fit. Yeah, that's why they say 16" all over the page. Here's one that's funny as a recent one. You sent me red and I ordered chrome. Red is the tape backing and chrome is under the white protective layer that is labeled. Not to mention thr scammers lately who steal product and swap out junk for it. Amazon will explain to us how voice of the customer is our fault, even though I find very small % that actually is our fault SMH

10
user profile
Seller_CA70ZtA5VBcto
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

Amazon and eBay support give you scripted responses that are disrespectful to small business owners who have at least half a brain that functions. You would need one to be successful in the business world. Been around for years? Have done millions in sales? Doesn't matter, you are treated no different than a new Joe Shmoe seller who struggles and is part of the high % of small business to fail within their first year.

Often times these responses make you feel like you're a child being talked down to. Hey don't hit, it's not nice! Your explained how a stat and feature works as if comprehension skills is not part of your capability and you need guidance like a leashed child at a theme park.

Unlike eBay, which I give props too for this, Amazon doesn't have a minimum threshold count for small business either, going off percentages. Sell 500 things a month selling at $80 average ticket price, have one UPS truck break down with 30 items in it, oof you're in big trouble now for SFP on time delivery. You'll be treated the same as ABC seller who sells 10,000 items at $12 average ticket item. That UPS truck breakdown for them, isn't going to barely make a dent. It's basic math.

I find it odd as well because Amazon isn't too bright and has pushed away billions in profit through suspensions. They have defeated the seller who was growing and in 5 years would of built up to 5 million annually in sales. These same types of business' that fueled Amazon's business growth. Without them, Amazon would of just been a failed book selling company lol. No seriously, you think Amazon's 30 billion net profit last year is actually good? No, it's low. If they actually dedicated support to sellers and had basic logic of growth and numbers, I don't see why they couldn't triple that to 90 billion in net profit. Let's say over the past decade they pushed away 2,000,000 sellers, 200,000 sellers per year. Each seller doing, let's say 300,000 a year. 2,000,000 x 300,000 = 600,000,000,000 in sales x (I'm going to just use our category fee rate) 12% = 72,000,000,000. Whoa, that's 72 billion in fees. How many dedicated and knowledgable support reps for 2,000,000 sellers would it take? How about 10,000? 1 rep per 200 sellers. Pay them 80,000 per year, US reps. That's on 800,000,000 plus benefits, etc. You think 72 billion covers it? lol Again, I really don't think people understand just how much money potential this company throws away from being bad at managing 3rd party sellers. Some dinkus or several at Amazon thinks they 're smart by outsourcing support, using AI bots to respond and treating sellers this way to save millions, while throwing away billions.

Anyways, off to work I go dealing with returns marked as not as described item and ASIN's , pumping up our NX or whatever it is % because buyers wanted free return as they bought the wrong part. I got 15" wheels and these hubcaps don't fit. Yeah, that's why they say 16" all over the page. Here's one that's funny as a recent one. You sent me red and I ordered chrome. Red is the tape backing and chrome is under the white protective layer that is labeled. Not to mention thr scammers lately who steal product and swap out junk for it. Amazon will explain to us how voice of the customer is our fault, even though I find very small % that actually is our fault SMH

10
Responder
user profile
Seller_xbNbb8BNtssv3
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We go through the same issues. Everything done correctly and shipped on-time on our end. But halfway through transit UPS/FedEx adds on tracking "Carrier Delay, Delivery Delayed Until Tomorrow" and yet, we still suffer for that. Amazon themselves would not be able to live up to the metrics, but they don't have to abide by them.

10
user profile
Seller_xbNbb8BNtssv3
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We go through the same issues. Everything done correctly and shipped on-time on our end. But halfway through transit UPS/FedEx adds on tracking "Carrier Delay, Delivery Delayed Until Tomorrow" and yet, we still suffer for that. Amazon themselves would not be able to live up to the metrics, but they don't have to abide by them.

10
Responder
user profile
Seller_r0fehDyVRb8xg
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We exited SFP years ago as the metrics are impossible to maintain. We never looked back. As you stated, it’s impossible to influence the internal workings of billion-dollar carriers such as Fedex and UPS. Both of which are way more reliable than Amazon BTW. Amazon expects you to chastise the gigantic carrier and create a plan of action. Its not possible to maintain SFP long term because of this. This is one of many metrics that sellers cannot control. The only way to maintain prime is to use FBA. This is one of many monopolistic actions and why Amazon has caught the attention of the FTC. Amazon is both a marketplace facilitator and seller. As a seller its not held to the same standards as private sellers.

Amazon Rep: “The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied”

Real Life Translation “The SFP program does strict performance requirements that must be maintained. These same standards are not applied to us, Amazon as a seller. You must pay us to house and ship your products if you want the Prime badge”

Amazon FBA is not held to the same standard. If FBA was held to the same standard Amazon would lose prime eligibility in minutes. Imagine Amazon removing its own prime badge! Most sellers would abandon FBA.

If you need to maintain Prime you can use FBA. We list all with free 2-day shipping. Same service without the prime badge. We sleep well knowing our free 2-day non-prime service will always outperform ANY Amazon warehouse.

20
user profile
Seller_r0fehDyVRb8xg
En respuesta a la publicación de Seller_hvvNUJjgodXWj

We exited SFP years ago as the metrics are impossible to maintain. We never looked back. As you stated, it’s impossible to influence the internal workings of billion-dollar carriers such as Fedex and UPS. Both of which are way more reliable than Amazon BTW. Amazon expects you to chastise the gigantic carrier and create a plan of action. Its not possible to maintain SFP long term because of this. This is one of many metrics that sellers cannot control. The only way to maintain prime is to use FBA. This is one of many monopolistic actions and why Amazon has caught the attention of the FTC. Amazon is both a marketplace facilitator and seller. As a seller its not held to the same standards as private sellers.

Amazon Rep: “The SFP program does have performance requirements that must be satisfied”

Real Life Translation “The SFP program does strict performance requirements that must be maintained. These same standards are not applied to us, Amazon as a seller. You must pay us to house and ship your products if you want the Prime badge”

Amazon FBA is not held to the same standard. If FBA was held to the same standard Amazon would lose prime eligibility in minutes. Imagine Amazon removing its own prime badge! Most sellers would abandon FBA.

If you need to maintain Prime you can use FBA. We list all with free 2-day shipping. Same service without the prime badge. We sleep well knowing our free 2-day non-prime service will always outperform ANY Amazon warehouse.

20
Responder
Sigue esta conversación para recibir notificaciones cuando haya nueva actividad